off-grid in australia

[Anonymous]

Hey, it’s never too soon to look into things like this, I myself started from the survival side of it. Camping for several weeks at a time in a remote area with only the gear and supplies I could carry in under my own power. Once I was able to do that relatively comfortably, I was even more open to the idea that self sufficient living and subsistence life style was feasible for me.

At your age, you can do all manner of things that will help you later on if you decide to adopt an OtG life.

• Plenty of workshops where you could perhaps get hands on experience while learning some basic skills.
• If you’re into reading (I hope you are!) there are so many good books on various subjects that might be of interest both for building a reference library for the future and general learning.
• Some OtGridders seek help for summer or seasonal jobs giving you the chance to be mentored while providing assistance, so be on the lookout for such opportunities. Building projects, from good old fashioned barn raising to cob house construction and so forth; helping hands, willing to learn are often sought.
• Build your network and community of friends. You never know what the future may hold and making friends and acquaintances is very valuable especially in the off the grid communities.
• Look into buying some land! I know, that seems radical at your age, but seriously consider purchasing a piece of rural property somewhere that appeals to you and your sensibilities. There’s still acreage available in many places, all that fly-over country that most people look down their noses at; I’ve found that the least desirable places to most people are often the most appealing to me:
  • Far from the city
  • Mostly or totally undeveloped
  • Low population
  • No building codes, HOA, etc.
• Compare notes with family members and relatives, you find that you share some of the same ideals and dreams.

That’s just my two cents on some things you may want to consider, assuming you haven’t already.

Peace,

K.

 

 

[BobbyKorona]

 

Hi to all…… Tax Deed sales , check delinquent property sales , Property Appraiser office will have a map

and a way to locate the deed ……look for property zoned for agriculture use … Google earth it…..if it looks

ok find how to buy  it …..if need help e-mail me …. bob32175@aol.com…..Centrial Florida

 

 

[BobbyKorona]

Hello Stephen…I have a project for you …. my tiny house is 88 square feet …. 11 feet X 8 feet ..
…… A dwelling unit contains independent facilities for living, sleeping, eating, cooking …
I will need small dual purpose items

1. a micro full kitchen , sink , small refrigerator , cooking area

2. a bed

3. small storage

4. chair and table

any thoughts ….. e-mail me … bob32175@aol.com …. central Florida

[betsy]

I appreciate all the kind words. It’s interesting to spend a bit of time on this site, because I’ve lived off-grid for so long that it’s not something I think about very much. It’s just normal life for me — so I’m having fun with the discovery that my ordinary day-to-day knowledge can be useful.

Wretha, I very much liked your freezer-to-fridge conversion blog entry. I wrote a comment there, but maybe the system ate it. Or maybe you haven’t moderated comments yet. Your idea is clever and well-explained.

Kuldebar, I’m impressed with your courage and planning, as you set out to tackle raw land in a new ecosystem. That will be an adventure!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[retired profile of WrethaOffGrid]

Betsy, your comment on my freezer-fridge conversion post is approved, and I replied, try refreshing your page when you get to the front page here CTL SHIFT R should do it…

Most people do not live like you do, or even like I do, and yes they are curious, those who are just thinking about it and those who are living it but are looking or fresh ideas.

I would love to hear about a typical day for you.

Wretha

[betsy]

Wow, that photo is amazing. You’re starting out with pure wilderness! What kind of critters live out there? Do you have to make a road to get in to your land? That’s exciting.

Thank you for the hugelkultur link. I hadn’t ever heard of that. My land has masses of down trees and branches all over the place; I think I’m going to experiment with making some of those big raised beds. It’ll save me a little money on hiring a tractor.

Rain water from a metal roof sounds like a great idea for you, as well. I use rain off my roof for fire-fighting water barrels, but otherwise don’t use it. Someday I will. Right now I’ll be doing good if I just clean the tree junk out of all my gutters.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Kuldebar for all your help!

 

How can i find out more about the workshops?

[kevinlee]

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[chowan]

what is a technocracy? i understand its some form of government

and has been used in some civ building computer games but how does it work

and how would it work when electronics fail?

[GardensWaterwheels]

I have very similar idea as you, and I would like to share it. I also am in need of some sound advice from people who are atleast interested in the topic.

I plan to buy land in a group of four or more situated apon a downhill mountain stream of

sufficient flow, reliability of permanence and dammability where I persue to set up a series of

dams that have a two cup tall, river wide gap at the bottom to allow the fish, mussels etc to flow

underneath a mesh protected spout. The spout directs most of the rivers flow into a small channel

coming over onto the top of a waterwheel connected to a permanent magnet alternator which generates

electricity to charge a clump of deep cycle marine batteries for periodic replacement. Further

upstream, large debris could be diverted down a different rout somehow, including any river life?

If done intelligently, carefully choosing the land, one can secure permanent free electricity at a

high rate and a low cost in comparison to solar if one utilises this concept of damming the stream

multiple times, utilising multiple wheels, along its length, with a big narrow at the bottom for

the fish, and a mesh protection for the dams spout leading to a water wheel charging a set of deep

cycle marine batteries! On top of this working permanant establishment of sufficient free electricity, one

as a team persues to establish very carefully and beautifully, a working permaculture food forest!

This food forest is established by the team, has a large diversity of fruit and nut plants along

with herbs, tobacco, tea, various hard wood trees, healing remedy plants, diverse organic foods of

all kinds at a cost of low maintenance once established, plants that need more frequent attention,

are placed closer to the house. Some of this is traded for other things, hopefully being able to

give generously. Permaculture is forest archetecture, food forest gardening. It creates a diverse

forest of food that matures very well over long time. etc etc, do some research if you have never

heard of the term ‘permaculture’! So, what do you guys think? And how likely do you think it is to

find land like this at a size of around two acres? ‘I just know thisl work though! And overcoming

any obsticles to climbing this mountain will be so worth it! No rent, free electricity, a food forest of beauty, a life time of freedom for those after you and those after them! Some advice, any? I have worked out, the rough cost to achieve this is: 40k each, four people putting 40k each in. But, the bigger the land, the more likely to find such a perfect kind of down hill mountain stream along with good food forest conditions. So the more, the better. If you ask me, the whole world should just convert to small, blissful villages like this that trade with one another. Apparently, I heard there is this new technology that is just a big glass ball of water that concentrates the suns light to shine intencely onto some very small but well equipped solar panels. With the addition of nano technology, these solar panels might be able to be made very efficient. So if that happens, then these villages can be put anywhere and everywhere, and trade with each other ^^. But until that happens, I am not going to waste any time, I am going to save up this money, and within a maximum of four years (I worked out 3 years at 200 dollers saving per week) and a minimum of one year (by working in the mines, or something), finding a team who is keen enough to save this money with me, taking a permaculture food forest course (there is one in the town i live! :) I will have the 40 or 50k I need to begin, granted that my team is saving with me, only then will it be possible within a small ammount of time, and then there is the great obsticle of finding a peice of land that is for purchase of around 2 acres that is situated apon a perrenial (permanent) mountain stream of sufficient flow and dammability… (a hard part) many obsticles to climb this mountain, But this is to be expected, the governments (provide no use whatsoever) obviously dont want us to be free living in harmony, so yes, this will be quite the mountain to climb with some of its obsticles… But what are your thoughts.

[chowan]

very unlikely im sorry I love your ideas they are very much like my own

but its going to be hard to find that perfect piece with the water resources

you want in such a small size  the other thing is permits and such for damming

up a small stream i think that would be the hardest thing unless you intend to

do this without permits it could be if you keep it unobtrusive.

so here would be my suggestion look at washington state lots of rainfall

and hence plenty of small streams to play with and lots of trees to build with

and to cover up and keep private your water wheels. you will probably need to look at larger lots than 2 acres but thats ok the extra land you dont use

will be a fuel and building material forests as per permaculture with

hunting and wild gathering also possible.

[Apollo92]

A technocracy is governed by a group of people who have certain knowledge or technical expertise.   The idea I came up with is a group of 7 called the board of leaders which consists of a President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Infrastructure, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Justice and the Secretary of Defense.  All leaders will be elected and work together to create governing laws as well as provide security, enjoyment, and nutrients to the citizens.

As for GW’s thoughts:  I enjoy the idea of self sustaining resources as well as trading with others.  I don’t however think that creating a dam to provide electricity is the way to go.  I’m not sure what will be required to build it and if US or state officials catch word of it that might result in heavy fines or possibly imprisonment.  If that wouldn’t be the case I do believe hydroelectricity will be much more sustainable.

[chowan]

OK ill play have you given any thought as to the founding principles?

like the constituion or perhaps the magna carta

what rights do your citizens have? when and how do they get to vote

what is governed by the technocracy and what remains personal freedoms?

just some ideas for you

[mlj1111]

Cannot see additional content of classifieds or landbuddys either. I think they are aware of the issue.

[mlj1111]

Honestly.. this is a bad idea. Of course that’s just my opinion. Your just describing the foundation of the same thing we have done over and over since the dawn of man, just giving new titles to the people running the show.

In a free society, all are truly on the same playing field, none better then the other.

A free society requires everyone do their part, rules that can be enforced, perhaps voting , on issues of the community, where a majority vote actually works.

A hierarchy is just another form of the same old leadership that has put mankind where it is today.

Adding to this… You may very well find yourself in a Ruby Ridge, Waco Texas situation if you were to actually attempt this.

 

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