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Yes! totally agree with you. When I set this up ill put up a video of how i did it and every step as to how you can do it aswell? Man, I’m exited.
Skrew all else, with this kind of set up, you will be the free mountain man living how human beings should c: if the machine is built well, it WILL last. Gotta have a good spot! And team support. And 4 – 5 years of extra supercharged saving. It will be worth it!! c:
I give myself four years of saving maximum… 200 dollars a week. = 41600 . Cuz I gotta buy seeds! and nails1!
I have seen two acres going for $65,000, and that is not uncommon. perhaps some more research is in order…
Split between four people, … this goal is totally reachable… :D *looks into the distance with fervour*
So , I will need to save atleast 20,000. working fulltime and saving 200 dollars a week I will have 20,000 in two years. .. I can begin my dream in two years??!?!?! omg! I had in mind 10 years! oh, i see, i had my perspectives set at what it would take to do it alone :3,, silly me
A good climate, appropriate terrain… An acre of land goes for around $50,000 – $70,000 nz dollars i think. 50,000 split between four people that is twelve and a half thousand each to purchase the land! that is nothing like what I thought it would be! I had in mind it would be like 50,000 each or something impossible… Ill need to buy a special peice of land,.. It will need a strong stream running through it, and also the ability to have it running off something onto the top of a water wheel, then again downstream, then again, then again, then again? :P and then have the power company hook up to you and pay you for your exess… :D (not needed)
You need around an acre to have enough room to feed a family of four for a year with traditional gardening, and that number could be made smaller and still work,.. Especially with permaculture I think, everything is more wild and closer together, placed in a way that is beneficial to the whole system of plants,.. so with that figure in mind and including space to trade a portion of the yield from the forest for things like milk and butter, bread,.. I am guessing 2 acres would be an ideal amount of land to own with a small group of people,… This land will need A strong stream though that can be dammed and set up to have the water running off strong onto a water wheel, and then perhaps having another wheel downstream doing the same thing c: And having in mind there will be a large, beautiful and diverse forest of food there it will need…
:o ok. According to this picture
You have a stream that you can dam? If you dam a stream (it should be a permanent stream) and have it so that water flows off something onto the top end of a water wheel hooked to a alternator or special kind of alternator (the latter is more efficient), hooked up to some batterys ( i have seen rows of car batteries being used for this) you can generate a sufficient amount of electricity for your home,, perhaps even all requirements.. the weight of water does not diminish,, you can set up more than one water wheel, having them in sequence somehow :D… If you are lucky even, you can get paid for your excess power, and have them run a line to your batterys, taking what you dont use.. On top of that, if you have the land, you could create a large food forest, implementing the method called permaculture, and your result will be the ability to have a large yeild on a constant basis for low maintenance, it becomes a wild forest of food once established, and thrives on its own like it does in say , a rain forest, exept ,, different because it will be considerably magnificent due to the fact that it is all fruit and birds and nuts and veg and sacred herbs to cure things by making tea :D in a free world, you could include plants such as hemp, and money making crops such as cocai-i mean all the ingredients to make honey bush caramel tea and have a team there making that and a village apothicary/chineese medicine unit for ailments and tobacco purchase. ;)
Yes, but we are not in localality, I have similar ideals, exept, try this proposal… I plan to get some land in new zealand, i live there, and I feel I must try this idea out”: To set up a home where, powered by water wheel electricity completely, there are no power bills, a permaculture food forest in back yard,.. one the size of which allows a large diversity forest of complete nutritional needs,, and big enough also to trade your stock for items suh as coffee, wine, meat, etc.. ,, A permaculture food forest is a rather unjustifiably underrated method, it produces yeilds at the cost of low maintenance once established. Essentially, the plants are ordered in the way nature places them in a natural environment, plants compliment each other, and a large, wild forest pregnant with life is result! Exept its a food forest! what do you think?
Absolutely. I completely resonate with what you are saying gridfree. In fact I have a goal that I would like to share and perhaps you could give me some input. I think my ideal is your ideal, I will paste what I have wrote: What do you think of this concept, in which I have deemed to be of utmost importance for me to make reality, as it concerns the ideal way of life I envision. Imagine your home is powered by water wheel electricity, your food is supplied via a relatively self sustaining/low maintenance community food forest of ample diversity and abundance, where your village trades with the outside world, or, mates who buy things from the supermarket, things you have in abundance for things you need, eg meat, butter milk etc. Depending on the level of maintenance required once established, we are talking a way of life where your basic needs of survival are met by working in a relatively low maintenance food forest of potential beauty and wonder. What do you think? I know that I must save money to purchase land, which is very expensive,… what a bugger, as there is so much free space everywhere to begin something like this immediately :). You could just set up somewhere in the woods :P? But I dont think I should do that. I am 19 turning 20, have just began working within the system, paying bills etc. I wash dishes at a restaurant, perhaps I can find better work. my bank account is low. The fastest way I see this occuring is to save up and split the costs with a village worth of people. :)?
Regards from Tauranga, New Zealand
‘@Canuck What’s your lifestyle like? Indeed the idea of loosing such reliance on the monetary system would do the world and yourself some good. And a healthy way of life will help you and the planet, especially if it could be many’s cup of tea. I am interested in beginning a way of life that involves a plot of land with a stream nearby sufficient to place one or two water wheels to make all the power requirements if possible and growing much organic produce of all kinds and trading my produce for the weekly food needs one cant get from the garden.. Hopefully some way to earn enough money to pay for wifi too ;) What do you think about this? How do you live that is different to my ideal? How do you get things like milk, butter, meat, bread etc.? Do you earn an income? If so how? How did you get from where you were to where you are now? :)
Regards from Tauranga, New Zealand